Episode 20 - LET ME FIX STUFF, Heroic Doggies and Reddit Hates Christmas


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Hello and welcome to the first podcast podcast when freemates talking about it. I'm loose, I'm glad, I'm Stephen. I'm surprised that I got through that with it. Yawn it's not that boardingless look for the listeners took at Tom Listening to is. We're just discussing how yawns are like a chain reaction and that doesn't know. We were stop it and looking at the care for Stephen's are for everdy. I thought it was goes. It's not rocious. So you brought up we were good, we got by that and you brought it back up. Let's need something to talk about, don't we? Also recording later than usual. Usually do as so half seven. It's nearly ten o'clock. So thanks, Stephen. I said I was ready by Naine use we too busy, plane violent waiting for you all day. So means don't have the luxury. I'll walking for home. I don't work out Saturdays. Well, I have thought with the it was grant's been sleeping a way in the house. He can. He's already true. I have. I been tiling up my Etho neck cables to make sure that they're it's like yeah, either under the floor or it's not visible as possible. Would have to put them above, above something just excited of wired. And I've also got fiber at the new house versus like, crap, do it here. It's that like gig three hundred sixty meg it's like fible two the home. Do you know? Yeah, Pribor to the home. Sure, just not pay for it. A little of one will you pay for and then get either net throughout. So it should be. It should be pretty good, nice, Nice. I'm a jealousy to ges because I've got like gigging on it, but I don't have capacity. It's a hard wire at all, especially because I'm written. I'm not like it just ripped the walls it, you know for sure. But anyway. So I guess something that we didn't touch upon that we always do. How are we? Are we getting on? I thought that just kind of covered that. We all seem quite tiled. I suppose anything exciting happening your life feel just we all want and and APP an APP enjoying the weather. It's been nice and sunny and yeah, I thought makes the dog walks feel much, much longer, like walking in the Sun. Both of us are a lot slore. HMM, I but that's a nice be strong. Not Yeah, but like all these, it's really like a cold and getting it and done with. It's this we do. It's a five key like loop that we do, and normally it's like a good like a cold brisk these like a forty minute. March, the warm day, takes about an dollar and it just starts to really slow. Doing I fend like since getting a dog and stuff. So I don't know if you know about in Glasgow Green, next to city center us, within the park, there's actually like a dedicated dog park, just stuff, but you can all take your dogs and let them socialize and stuff. So, especially with being like a rescue and for good idea, I start taking all them. It's really good, but it's like half an hour to walk there from where I stay and then. So there's all the time now, but it takes sometimes a bit longer because some letting the dog running bout cheese spaws and stuff, and then in the park you end up talking to people, see you get caught up and you're their foot. An hour with your dog has all the fun. You just have the same conversations over and over again and then by the time you have to come home, it's still half an our walk, but I feels like five hours. It's just it's name to go there, but you just so tempted to just get a taxi home. Hope you don't tell it any people that you're they are aware that you dare podcast because they might listening to us our els that back clearly to be anywhere. That is the plan. Not. Trust me, they really recognize many because but I'm quite good with faces and stuff in that those like people have had the same conversation really three times there and they don't recognize me. I'm the one that usually goes, oh, yeah, I remember your dog clip. It's you've got the rescuers, aren't you? Like that's right. So I put this rights. But that's where guy, and I swear he's asked me like this wasn't an absode up a dog park. I'm sure he has supposed five or six times like Oh, like the hardest one a dog, because it hard to get on and off and then get ask to see how it works.

And I'm sure she'll be your wi me up here like I let me just kn harness my dog like and I sounds like he's been drying neckart dog like sell this dogless again. He's got like a like the lead clips sort of the hardness. So he's awful lead run around this but gets a fit. Same was what we've got loose your fenced off area. HMM. And Yeah, he's just like Oh, it's easy, gone. It's just used to go. Cool Dog. You Crystal Door if you want to any bay. But I killed dog owners. Honestly. No. Well, I guess something that's quick exciting this week is it's a lot of you game and use coming up. If he's a paying at any night. Of course some are. Game Fest has been if is. I think we started today. There was some technical issues as today I'm really some pretty big conferences them on alsome quite excited sweet you know, watch the stream, probably not, to be honest, like like the gaming arm, a bit biased. I do pay more attention to the sleep Nintendo PC stuff just tends to get thrown in anyway, and then the playstation stuff. But I'm excited to see what comes to xbox and if you still but I always watch. It's the best. Always Watch the Microsoft and obviously never thest hangs. But I am the same as you Nintendo and play stations of ones I kind of keep my eyes on. Yeah, so I don't tell someone game fest is where it's going to be anyway. I think Jeff keleys still canna still in the show. Yeah, I mean you twty thing La. I don't know if he's noticed. That applied to day like core streams, where you free and the rejected application. So he's just something going on. Yes, that's basically he's just telling I lostreamis they watch it, because I think they might start streeting people off the tray streamer. That's the problem with e free and I think that's point why Sony and playstation decided not to take part in it anymore, because you know, they can do whatever they want, do their own thing for as long as they want and offer it and straight to the people buying their hardwearing the games and stuff. jobing rather than so shame as well. I used to love watching. I feel made. Mean you're sure you used to be used to get on scape and watch the streams together, and that's what with unpractical every year, but it's been gone and hold the last few years. and was that last year that actually got canceled? Yeah, we had little one confidence, but I think some of the game first it's just going to take it off of it now. I think so too, and not sustaining to see what's coming it especially no since the new consoles have been a like best party. A year lows them, I guess, don't. You wanted to show these things are coming up, but excited for it. And there is coming on. May get reviewed s you can. I want seemail got the war, but I don't think we're going to see it. To be honest. You know now. If anything, that's probably just going to be an attias or three low being the actual gameplay. That's my thought. I think it's followed after. But what being made to believe all that? I only stay for her rising and maybe a Taser for the next fiveer man and not so about soon me. Mayber was my others, but let's be honest. I was made an expansion and I still game. I loved that, but it was just the same game. Really want just googled ethree expectations so I could try to be a bit funny and be like I'm looking for this this in this, but I just seen in there that they're they're expecting a GT five remaster or no? That's the thing that the making ups by version. Wayne, is gt six coming whose GT you five? Since I was well, five years feels like that. It's sexually has two thousand and fifteen I came out and actually that's mental. It's nearly ten years. All I'M gonna say. Right, and this is a part of game in the pisses me off because I know no like the pushing the boundaries of technology and it looks great and it runs great all that stuff, but I still just it. Maine, bothers me how much the how many features and how much game play they put into games on the PSTWO compared to know, if you go and look at like gt fives are amazing, but if you compare it really the original son Andreas, there's so much that you could do in that that you can't do in duty five. But even that's just backwards, like I just don't know how that ever happens. Lee Ye, look, look at the things like going to a gym and eating too much, for can you get fat and son and dress. It's things that they could have all just easily carried forward and I get or its technical difficulties that basically those three character models and if you bulk up, you switched it out and that's but surely you could have done something red thead two. He put dynamic hell and build growth.

I'm sure they could have watch something like that. Yeah, and then that's the thing is really Nintendo make great games, but if you look at them compared to PC, playstation x books done nowhere near like graphically the same jobman like. Usually Games like ten to look a lot better on playstation, xbox PC. Well, we've got this which brogramming it as well, though. There yeah, which you know it's going to meet forward. But I think Nintendo get away bit as well, though, because they are mel gilty kids. So it's mall cartonation, stylized games that they've got. So, though the graphics might not be as good, it's a stylized kind of look that they've got. Is Elder and stuff. Looking at look at Mario and K. it's not going to help, like it's going to look exact same, like it's just rendered like math. It's not like a forty or something gone to film Theron and so and I think he's played mighty way. See, I don't know if he's Dad. Yeah, the latest one. YEA, they but the section it was in New York, the human characters, they allot the freak me out. I don't like it. I don't like seeing Mario next to an actual human guard. It's no natural man. Cool, cool, but what I was going to say there anyway, was just like Nintendo was living proof that games don't have to be totally realistic and they don't have to look totally real to one be a good game in two for people to buy it. So I would much rather even know, like with a power behind all these consoles and pcs and stuff, that they put more into a game and it not look as good, because the thing is like even if you think back to like PSFOUR Games, like I've seen some cat comparisons now, like you think at the time, look, fucking know, that looks amazing and then you like act to see the jump from that tops five, and that's when you notice the different strate means. So until that happens, people go act, you know about it. So they could still be like raining in the graphics of a bit to put more in games, but I don't know, maybe it takes longer for them to build games like that. Did you? Do you see that? Mean where it was like ten ATP in two thousand and fifteen versus like ten ATP in two twenty one. Now it's just like a MO offers like it's I think start up, as a start up is like a legit thing of like we thought this game was Pinos, shocking right, like you're not going to watch anything. It's any it was. It's the mean thing just has like before and after. So off a bunch of things. But yeah, I don't know. It feels like it's like, yeah, I'm not looking for better graphics and Games, I want them faster. Yes, especially exactly. I like I'd enjoy like when I game comes in, it's like wow, this graphically is amazing, but if it's at the cost of like game playing features, then I would rather have have more features and a game than graphics exactly. And I think especially if it's like a story game where you're like really drawn into the narrative and stuff like, I think that's when you can kind of, I see it, I guess, not let them away with a lack of features because you still want features in your game, but it's centered around the storage, I mean so they don't have to make it as in depth. Well, that stuff. But when you're tongue grand fift all, like is always been known for having like so much to do and so many places to go. Dat means it's like, I don't know every building in the game, than it look real doing just that. I thought more from I don't think we'll see being able to go in it, every building even, and grab it look, but even read there too. That a lot better. For that, like most bouldings, you could ENA, and I'll probably wasn't the NIF and number. It was like all here's a chail with a poker chip on it and dead body and it's like all those us. There's a lot of story there. It's not each other, it's a story and that's bolding. And say there dead one wouldn't even been accessible. So even things as I didn't it. Yeah, exactly, but who knows, maybe it will come like fill circle juman like. We surely will get to a point graphically where, you know, games start to look consistently as good as that your Disney films and like real life and stuff joining. So I think at that point technology will get better and then they'll start Adam more and because they won't be able to do anything graphically only. I don't know what is that? What is that like? What takes the bulk of the time to make a game? Is it they're trying to make it as realistic as possible, or is it just that I've got to play this a hundred times in every different way to debug every issue of how this is all going to work? Well, the really be some games? It's probably, I guess it is part of that. It must be like. I don't know, because they claim now that you know, you can actually go in down roads the least unreal LE engine for Vere and start making your own game technically. So it's a makes six massing game engines seemingly as becoming easier. But I guess it's the functionality these things and better ai and all that stuff, isn't it? As well..., like you're saying, going through all the bugs? And I guess a lot has change, but I imagine the time is spent like having to add more detail to the game as well, because, HMM, especially these big Ol from games like duty and stuff, as a large and a lot of it was just like concept as well. All like you need to run through everything that your plan on doing. Imagine that takes time, like to start an idea. That that of a scratch, especially one of these bigger games like an all and metal gil solid to had your Kajima gave like the team notepads and they were all right ideas and stuff, and that that's where the idea of the current spiritted, the fuse the bombs game from. Just something right, no not pads. So then that got ady done. That's fair. Yeah, suppose us a lot more. We don't know, but it's just sad. Let's you do look at some games knowing, you just think back and why, like to faces like I was playing a game. I had a lot more to do in it than that's all. It's strange anyway. We're so just what like I actually where I used to work, Gorilla Games was next door and you can see it other offices. You would literally see like someone just like shooting a ball and Arrow for hours on end in like every direction they could. Any O, they were testing like the physics of it, or they were like debugging this game for absolutely ages and US think I've been watching her eyes and getting it. Assume that's what it was. But yeah, I wonder. Like so I used to want to be like a gamesters. I think that was that the cool. I think every kid at one point was like, I've been a games test for sure, until to you guys, like the reality of it is like run, shooting Arrow, walk, shooting Arrow, shooting our walk, shooting out a run or cry and all ideal. Yeah, jump, run, shooting, our heart crashed, startling. Is this really weird? Bug and fallout? No, various that. If you ent any the strip wearing a very specific cowboy hat, it would make the game on playable, like everything. Voice'll safe. If you know hear the the you know team fortress, if you play that, are heard of it. At least it's made vice for that. It's just like a multiplayoff team base game, kind of not like see an. I like over watch before it over watch. Yeah, of that. Apparently those people found it a couple of years ago. It does literally deep within the game fails, just like a picture of a coconut and somebody'd like deleted it and the game just doesn't work. If that fails. Removed and apparently it's because it was put there like in the early stages of code and then, just like these things were built upon and it pointed to that and then they change stuff on top and then I was just like all this like deep rooted codes that like links back to this thing. So if it was like this, could you know, and it's not there, this like the game doesn't. was another one similar that and it was, you know, that really hated alien game. I think it was corn your marines. HMM. But the the AI and it was notoriously bad. And there's only a couple of years ago some they was digging through the code and realized that there was a letter, there was a spelling mistake and the code and they changed that in a part and it changes game really so much. I I just makes the game so much better, like when actually walks. And it's amazing that that went Messon for all the years in the game flop till it was a disaster, and may have been at two one thousand nine hundred and eighteen. There it got fixed. That's the thing. Something like a single layer must be so hard like to come across, even if like you're the person that made it. I mean it's one latter, I could take so long. But in come back to gt that haunted recently as well. Did you see that? Like basically it's notoriously bad for like loading times, obviously, and somebody basically got pissed off on then, like why does it take so long? Went through all the failing the code and stuff and then realized to this we don't speak a bit that on this podcast. To me, I must have just spoke to somebody else about it, but they basically went in and realized that the code they were using to like Lord stuff was like dragging up all these fails and all this stuff that is totally unnecessary to load the game and that's why it takes so long to load. I don't know if it has been patched, but rocks actually came out and like gave him the bounty money, even it wasn't a bug, like because they found a better to could it. Like gave them that money and said they were going to patch the game as well, because it's shown. See, there's amazingly six minutes. Don't like I'm Anna I load. It's crazy that amount of time. But I used to set in that lobby when I played GD on my not like you used to need to build it right. I'll be on in fifteen minutes, because you had to take an account of thing that would take the load and it'll all be yes. So you'd start that and then you just go there. What you will do, and then you'd come back and see if it was walking. Yet it's month. Never Cross a bridge in GTU. Those five minutes your life were Lords. You realize got to go back to wrong brush. I guess we get an athlete, let's say...

...he's talking about games, talking about technology. It's a good segue. So first read my friend posted on our technology is, sorry, by cycle thumbs and it's tatled New York's in it passes electronics rate to repair legislation. So I'll be honest. I'm just using this purely as our we can brush you over in two minutes. If you're purely just a moment of then Andy. But because please, the shit does my fucking head and I'm sure annoys everybody that just especially me and and and I've noticed, like I quite a lot of places, and I think you don't like as a wholer in the midst of trying to push this through as well, some sort of right to repair laws so that companies can't keep fucking ripping herself, basically, and one making hardware or whatever they sell really hard to fix, if not impossible. And also, you know, like apple constantly get hounded because people say that they releasing updates that intentionally slow down the older devices, which also because a hundred percent they do, but as shit because, like, some people just don't have the money for the least phones human or some people still go into setting hand shops and buy one that's freaking ten years old, intentionally dunning. Know even that the the took are a feature that I don't want to lose, and then all ones. I like the thumbplant. I don't like face idy. So I don't want to upgrade because I don't want to lose the fum print. Yeah, especially now, because we really she constantly used to follow master and it is as well. What's the point? Yea True Okay, so he doesn't even work. Were Sunglasses. I miss the thumb print. It's so much easier. I don't get right. It's because I've got all your thumb prints and then he's upgrade. Then I've got your face at all. Next thing you know, you're going to have another we grant shop up with your don't take your place, although vision body snatch. That's one thing, sorr. It's like talk to us a tangent. That's one thing I'll give apple for those of privacy. So they've built like machine learning and stuff in at the phone so that when it does take your from front of your face, it never leaves your phone. So it doesn't need it and it doesn't need to talk to apple like I do. So apples privacies like second tone, which is really cool, compared to Amazon, who have like if you have an Amazon Echo, now your Internet is used for like devices walking past your whost that needs an it. It's fucking metal. And Yeah, we'd kind of vouch for apple on that one a little bit because I feel like there's still so many ways in the background that they could like safe in that day and give it to every they want. But like apples, if anything, especially like working in it, and stuff like apple products are almost a nightmare because of like how secure they are. Sometimes it's fucking like a spect. There's no like native software out there either. That like that is but it's not as like easily come by as other stuff. But just to manage apple devices as a whole platform is just it's not fun to do. But yeah, that's part of that. Is just all these privacy things. They've gone securities. It's pretty tight. But yeah, so I'll your right go. Yeah, that's part of it anyway. And there's just still like touch upon it as well be again like working in it. There was a point in time where even laptops and the first game it, you could talk them open. They are nice and they were about Chunky. So I know they've tried to let drink things. Now that you can pop them open, it would be like free screws that could come off. You could go and you could change their arm. You could get to the hard drive, could change the city drive and new. It's like glued together and not just that. You need to go in on do like eleven screws and it pop it out, and then cool cables and do this and you can e. you're not allowed to touch some cables because it voids the warranty on it, which is scummy and itself, because I could fix it in half an hour and it may be a director's laptop and they want me to wait and phone the warranted team and then answer a hundred questions wht me send an engineer and for this time it's just like so much shit like that and it just a real boys my blood. I just want to talk about even recently, like my wee brass got, like any smartphone, nothing amazing, but tried to fix it from and like my Samsung iphones not that long ago, like if I broke the screen, I would go and to fix it myself. I tried to open his phone and which is glue and just started breaking as soon as I pulled apart and just like so shit, because it's that. Or if you go to something, they want you to peel like a hundred fifty could to replace the screen. So harm about you just look at it. Yeah, but happened to me with my phone. I cracked and I took it a apple shop and I like it's gone across the Hun Twenty pound and that will take a week to send that baton as a not sorry, I'll just go talk to that. You got to Kyr skill change a screen for me in half antherfle to it. It Qud. So forget that. Ridiculous Man.

I remember the days used to buy like iphone screen packs. Or for Ebay and you just hope that they would work and if no, you have to spend a one pount twenty six by another young replacing yourself. It's a fun we even I don't know, you couldn't. I don't know, those things you couldn't repair, that you couldn't go in and fix. Apparently, like so the thing I kept seeing the news was a bit like tractors and stuff. Apparently there's a bunch of tractors that are like mainly just computers, new and the farmers are new. To fix some of the field they've got to phone up whoever it is who makes tractors, John Deal, phone up John and see here, Johnny boy, a computers Buggers I've tried to turn off and on again. You'll go, all right, go through the hundred questions to see me, as you probably ask Louis about laptop, and then eventually send someone to go you to your new tractor and then the station for you. But that's the worst thing as well, because you know Faine well as if you did take your phone to apple, they do this a fucking hell of a lot as well. You go and then they put you a week and they go off, fuck off, a new and a half come back. But sometimes they actually just like literally swap the phone. Yeah, John Mean, and then they'll send it away, it will get fixed and then somebody else to end up with a refurbished one like six months later joins. It's like, why do they know just do that anyway? Then jo mean and just not charge you for it? I don't guess. Come on, and I just annoyed me. So I seen this and I was like, this is fantastic news and everything. That unit still to try and get this too, but it just has to happen. It's it's disgracefully last and so a comment, a commentary, reminded me of this. Of You seen the guy who on Youtube who's fix and Tesla's illegally. No, no, says guy in America. Any like it bodies like a love Tesla, but I also like fixing things and they break a lot, so I'm going to fix them. He's been buying a partly in your knowledge, touch on of the go to go to Tesla engineer, you know, to touch your Tesla at the end of it. so He's been like buying broken Tesla's, like all the front half wet and fire, or the backcaft was in a crash, so you'll put the two parts that work together, and they've tried to like sit like stop them from doing this. They try to get the parts back, if they try to do all sorts, and this guy's like wage in a war with Tesla to like just fix on what people's cars who kind of like they could afford a tesla, or the border and finance becauld you word to fix it and are left with broken cars. So it's like it's quick, quite a noble thing. This guy's also try to get rich because he wants to be the first person who could fix a Tesla for like all we bit cheaper. Yeah, sure, and don't realize Tesla's well known a break. Thanks, I see they don't. You break there. They have like a really high safety rating. So soon as you make like a little Ding, the thing just crumples. Okay, you did entire front end or if the battery aage replaced, you have to go through test. I thought, well, how long it need to places? Every couple of years you replace all the batteries and I think you got to get to Testa to do it. Yeah, but to be fair, I'll need a Gat into that guy. But what is doing makes a lot of sense, because I have heard that like the same stuff we tesla's. But I've also had that like a lot of the time they'll just send out like a van or like a truck with something and the parts are quite modular, so they'll just like rip apart a little bit and then just swap it around other things. It makes to all sense that if somebody has like a bashed up front, that you just go and like swap it on top of our car that's working or something. If at the thing, like what this will do is is Tesla, then he sell those parts. If if you want to buy it, like you have to buy another broken car. For somebody who's got a broken car, you kind of just buy a new from bumper or as a sensor about we need to go through their engineer basically bring up for you. They've got bring it, they've got install it. They control like that means they control everything, so they can make anything and they can sell it to you for whatever they want because, well, you've got this, only place can get it. The being sort of devil's advocate on that, though, I bet a lot of the people well, a lot of people. If you don't test that, you may have the money just to buy outright. But what was gonna say? As a lot of people probably finance and and technically, until you finish your finance, it's not your car. Is it so true that Kane as an argument for them saying, well, we want to make sure it's fixed properly in case this comes back. Does depends what you finance it right, like I think in America a lot of things are on like credit cards or just loans, and then it's not tied to anything or than just so. So, yeah, you spend that money whatever you want. Really, yeah, that's fair if that's how it is. And yet till I don't know, maybe it as an actual lease least thing, and they just think it's coming at companies day train just runs the common person for actually supporting the company. It's bizarre. But then a lot of actual repair men, if you will, and they are set of this stuff as well.

So see, even if things there was the right to repair on your early to do and cheaply. All these people like that. I remember yours back actually, I think it was like my mom's cooker oven like like went on the blink and I don't know, I wasn't paying attention, but she like phoned some local guy or facebook or gum try or some shit like our. Can you like have a look at that? What's happening? He was like, Oh, I will be like fifty quid to come out, and then it's probably this part, so that will be like fifty quid on all. In the end it was like a hundred hundred fifty quit or something, and I literally just like googled the model number of the oven and what was wrong with it, and it went our. It's very common that this little fuse goes in these. Looked on EBE it was genuine like four pounds fifty for this part. So I bought it and I fixed it. Like you think. I'm, alas, quite impressed, and that that's where it spells. People like Oh, can you come fixleep my fridge, and I just got lucky on this sne if we feel but yes, they'll start to watch it for as Belle, if this stuff does go through. But even still, companies need to just give it a rest, like let's look after the planet and as all right, can just keep placing shit constantly. So you reminded me of, like you know, I do them like old laptops and you uses a couple of screws, like they literally used to have, like a little cover for the ram that you took off, the one screw that the ram covers off, and the there you go, like your stuff. Or the battery, like you could go and buy just a new battery. It's a lot on the back. Maybe shout to take your battery up when your planes. Yeah, that's just call it. Yeah, and now you basically can't do that. And that's the thing, even like your rum now that to save money they just solder it on to the motherboard. So a lot of these things that even have like replaceable run anymore. So one they're not upgradable and they're not chucking reparable. It's Ye, spillshit. My my macbook like shoes of herd, like macbook keyboards. They changed from Spring to where they've got now, and they are like the notorious for just getting jammed and stuck and and like having ny feedback at all. This happened, I think a couple months after got that books. I took it back in the store like this is news, suffer, it's no new it's literally everybody complain about it. Why don't be white? And then they're like, Oh, you come back, if you back, or with every knowing it, replace it. You then new top part, like you kind of just replace the keyboard appartly. It's like you to replace the whole aliminnium part and like other some of the other components are stuck to it. So you need those new components as well. Sort of war. This is free. But so they did that and then it came back or day didn't scratch there like our sorry, but that here's a new one. But done that to start, we honestly. But yeah, you can just replace a key that was stuck. You to replace the entire top. Say, that just seems like bad design. Again, it's what loses thought under it. The design to feel. Yeah, obviously after they will design and on the last then that would he's a just pop it to put an new key on. Yeah, it's design to look sick, right, it's doesn't to look and hear it. Should they break, because it's all sil it's all together, but it does break. It's yeah, you're fucking God. Will agree on that. Anyway, excel him. Get that off my chest. And should looks and that one. Then then we came on, voter, I give up, woman. That's that's good news. Up for that. People are trying to change the stuff. All right, go on to my thread then. This might be a short one and is kind of related to what we were chatting about the start. So with dogs, just as by the Bill Schnickel, the bill snickled. May you need one on today I learned, and it is that today I learned at during World War II, a great Dane named Julianna was awarded a blue cross medal because she extinguished an incendiary bomb by pin on it. Love the For this wee dog, although a second, there's a war. Just wait, Amna, I need to toilet. Going over, I think, to put US fire. Or there's a bomber, by the way. Don't worry, I took care of it. And so amazing. But was a metal at one sorry, a blue cross medal, but that w the try. I guess hero like ats or something. Let's be here. So so do we think this dog sort, if you're good tells, but do we think this dog just happened to pee on it, or do you think this dog is like trained to see these things come in and then like passive, last dog new and the Blue Cross medal is a medal for hero pets, from the consistent of therapy animals to military and service dogs. Let's cool,...'s petsman. Yeah, and I'm trying to find out, like, what happened? They got starched. It was so funny. It's a funny thing. It's impressive anyway, because sleep if you look at dogs and how like the large majority of them react to even fireworks going on. Its dogs freaking pissing on grenades and the midstay walk. That's pretty interested. So as a person needed aren't think what would I stop the fire going it? But that's what. That's what that one isn't it? Yeah, it's yeah, it's fine. Yea good dog man, good, good dog. But there's there's some sad, sad news. Our grant don't well, it was a world water run. Well, although this was heroic dog, someone put some poison for the letter box of its door and it eat it and died. What the fuck? Why would you tell is that? But well, I read it, I knew it's I figured you look to share my pain, for that's the heat. A heroic dog and where was this dog from? A like get any British dog, an American dogman dog, British Dog, I think? Well, it was the it was found in Bristol. The middle was from Bristol. So some it was a bristol dog. That's even was because, you know what, the UK has a pretty big following of people who love to support the Queen and love to pour out the hearts to well valued soldiers, both alive and the ones that died many, many years ago. So yet this dog potentially saves life's does that, and then they can poison it like actually an active terrorism if you want. Who isn't atter, especially since a needle to post poison through the little books. It tells you it was meant for the dog. You know, I mean the it's nice that it's been a whole going to get the human. It's gone for the dog. That's that's a par getty pat ends. If the poison was the colors Anna, or so I got, feed it. Well, dogs a hero, he go poll well, Shit, some, sorry, Ned. Here's the here's the longest. There's that the longer story. So that the metal was found in a proper Clearan, some bristol with a paint and off the dog and a plaque. That said, this was a great dean with a great bladder. Imagine that. The people pre war, rich US reilly, just a stout loading up the dogs and water, just forcing a drink gallons it. It was a great didn't really great blad or we got the dog was even a water dog and it was in its hoofs and a bomb came through. Came through the Hoosa. Is A bomb, is it? The dog went and then ped on it as it was on fire and put the bomb out. Probably the same fucker that put the poison for it fum the Culina. I'm sorry, let's just become a mere man. Unbelievable. I don't know if you're just writing fun fictional that a bit of dog. So this was all the BBC in two thousand and thirteen articles from if you've got like done fire rockets of whatever going off it, yeah, you'll find my dog like with fireworks, even just an occasional one, amst to go off because people are idiots and set them of. Funny Reason, there is the fact it's hey under a table, so no chances. I say again, a walk on and it said and then I fire comes and it goes better. Push on that and got a fright and just pass. You know what has been maybe? Do you know that's been the orders past on that? And being that, I need to tell people us. As a dog, I can't see upper stone. I could. That's not my rug. I bodied that it was the dog. The dog had two acts of to her rock acts. A fire broke out at a shoe shop in one thousand nine hundred and forty four, and also told the owner here, your shops on fire. I will really hope my passed on that fire. which. Wait. So when did it die? And comparison to when it won the medals? In one thousand nine hundred forty six. So the medals were, from what I for the FDNIGHT hundred forty one. They got the medal night hund forty four. Was the fire in the shop eight hundred forty six. It died. We saw the medal and the portrait sold auction for sixty pounds. But I'm sorry, wait, hold one, there's a better next there's clearly two medals flashing. It doesn't like metal for the fire. Eari one medal a part here. I've no listen to properly. So after the warpart we're up like if I are going to need came in a pistols, but usually another one came in to the shop. No, no, no,...

...just it's a fire stuff. The war, great jakes. If it was a flute, yeah, I bet you. The owners went like watch right, will see it this, we firework off, we'll stand in the back. The dogs as follow them anyway. As a firework, I just peel it says you're getting your sexty quid when you prove it was a dog. So the fuck up, set the show. Fuck fire. I'm coming than far. Try to look like why they bold cats one, okay, you know what, good on hero dogs. But that's something about the story that I'm really starting the question it. But it's I don't know, man, I don't know. I'm just thinking I like to be true upuntil the poisoning pot. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I was thinking, I give this was my dog, Click, I think my dog would go up to it and try and Pun it, but Beau, he's on like and then just going to walk away. Missy want have Ay. There was a funny comment of somebody just said that's not its name. My mom's dog, Shit knocker, would be a full star general and my world water. She pisses on everything. She took a shit my sister's present under Christmas treet. That takes real gumption, gumption a love that will flo shit knocker. I really hope that's its name. We're got to end it with one comment, then, which is the the top comment, and I'll see if you got a guess what it's a quote from it's that's right. I stepped up if I had to appear on any of you. Friend. Oh, I know what that's. Yeah, yeah, Oh, no, I was dry man. What do you say? Think I was? I thought it was the wait for the office. I feel like Yas said something like that. To be honest, there something, some one who did right. Peon. No, I'm pretty sure. Is it not to like the fire drill episode or something? No, that's what I was thinking for some heedd elevator. That's what it is. That's that's what it is. Actually. I Pam mess through the elevator and into it. was like I gott to establish a peak order. It just it's the feel. I've been to fair my blood. I control the surrenders anyway. It will get an old I think I'm quite good at like. Well, I'm sure you see it's done, but but I can't even let laugh. Let's the point get into as us. I don't press myself. But yeah, it's not along till you hold the end of it. Phillip, like who we water balloon, the one motions. Thanks. I've just got the world stains car trumpud. It's gonna be Great. Cry Thought was the last bit. So we can end on that. I cannot see that. Part of me feels like there's some research needs done. I always I think you need to stay that. Then I in report back, but we do what we do at folks and then we'll see. I'm about. But I can choose that, but I can hold it. said. That's I honestly do. I look forward it because I really hope that it's true. And do dogs to see I've made us, because they're a great but you hope people poisoned. I hope he's put the fire. It's best met helpful. Now I'm seeing. I'm for you. My bad. Oh, actually, all right, the bull. All right, so drinking waterlooks Stephen. That's a clip for T. therefore was and it's... need to send that thing again. Know, I'll there. And Right. So the we all know what read it gifts. Yeah, you don't wish, I said. Yeah, awesome. So read at gifts is going away after the Fellon this year and I'm going to shut it done. And people are not happy about that. Okay, they'll see it and take a decision. Right, they're not blah blah, blah, blah blah, but they're going to do it to focus on getting read at better features and stuff. But I don't see what Alfred it really needs. To be honest, can any use thinking new that feature wis right, but it was trying to make it look that kind of social media. We really design your page and up. I'm not interested than that. That's where I gone either that I think read it search sucks so much like search can so much better. It's really hard to find you that actually this. I'll just play row on. I would agree that. I imagine the probably like a bunch of modes stuff at the one and like automation for like, because a lot of bots and things that people make. Imagine there's just some of that stuff. They could just be built in for for every very, very sub very community. They could definitely like do I the yeah, like the subgredit customization could get bit better. I think the stream inside of it, from what I've seen as well, that could do. The other yeah, increase, because it seems like a lot of people, or more people, are starting to like do these little life streams on reddit. But I just I'm not great. I came across see, I don't see it much. I love because I still use older that a lot of the time and that's something they could walk on. Actually, you know, bringing all bread back. I think we make it better that they have when you read it, I even do that read is so shit man. I tried for a try for weeks. You seen in the links I was sending in your using that and it's so shit man. Stephen, I've got a question. Do you have all updates turned on on your phone? I have. They actually, we did all right for you. It's like I don't update APPs either. No, I still have just a flappy bird. He still got funds washed twenty grand no, they all up this, but it's the new reddish shad. Don't like it, but anyway, that's not what I wanted. The Guy who actually made read it gifts in the first place, has made new ddit gifts, and that's when everybody's for me, a lie and as Fu as that's a breadit for it. I but I thought that's what initially started that as I thought it was just a thing that people own read it done. So I was gonna say that I didn't think that it was ran by red at themselves. No, I thought that was just like a community thing. Well, I was just going to see if any use to devel used that. I've been meaning to every year and I always come to our golf do one and I've been meaning to do it for the past I don't know, three years or it is, and I always like forget and then come to it as like the drawers already have been done. That's yield. Is going to be your last year and offecial capacity to do. But again, knew that. I know that it as nearly know that more. That's knowledge at but like as I kind of trust that still mats before you could kind of fall ban guilt. Oh I've no got my gift and you would get rematched with something else, if that I partned, or you could just take on something else, because I don't know a couple of them back in the day, not the money yells, but as actually really cool, because you basically something the you new bet about the profile, when you try and can I get to know who they are, and then you try and think of something that would suit them as a pelps. Some judge in made it subread. It's not the one. I just really enjoy that. So here is a thing for anybody's to listening or everybody who comes back to this episode of listens. We should do a secret center. The last one ready gifts Christmas, the last one with not just US little but anybody WHO's so Alex ads three and Alex h that is I forgot about to mention. Well done, Grat one. Would it be cool if we can actually get people who listen to this to reach it is on the socials and that because, let's be honest, neap they does really, but if they did, like we could end ourselves in this and then like, I don't know, he'll peach shall choose the gifts. Joan, get some into on what we should buy as the gift to send to the person readits. That makes sense and it's just overcome. No, how do you get that sort the few is get the one person. So we...

...are and as a collective, I thought, you may say, not great. And then what we do is come on this episode and you tell us all you get. I like that. Right, collective, we decide it were it to get them. That's the Christmas like. That'Sia. That is it. Let's do that. It will have to do it early, wast think it is week. If I or can actually give us suggestions as well. Yeah, let me cool. Yeah, put the calendar like it. I'm pretty sure I did say up to it, like way back to like a good few years ago, and I can't remember why, but like it never happened, I think. Did it? Did it email you to like confirm you're still a part of it or something, and then I think, I think it's something a Gat. I'll use that. That's cool, because people used to much, I'm they used to send them a shut down a Microsoft stuff, like to grandmother things. You should look up. People both like Oh, got bol gates and all it's in a couple I a bill gets lot of the money for the stuff and the stuff back to sell again. It's still pretty really. You don't obviously doesn't even need today. That still so. That's one of are to the comments. One is you. This is Bill Gates. Can you save ready gifts? And then someone else is one a buy ready gifts and just make it a sub corp of Microsoft. That pretty cool. Do youse think a shot at done because of the VOCI's wife and Bill Gates being that luck? You's need to end us because I can Ida took you. There's so many comments for him as well. MMM, really calling out to him. It's just that and this new secrets on one. So does that mean? Is the new secrets an I want? Does that not start until next year? Then, since I don't know, I want it on it along. Say you that as well. It's just it's just good to it as still going to go on in some capacity, but it's just seems like a weird thing and shot done. It's sure it doesn't. Think how much? Okay, okay, so our secret sent and our reddit gifts were creating twos and I to bring happiness to people around the world. So those were the ones are officially run, but communities will still run their own ones. That they've been doing anyway. Okay, so read it. Had read it was running two communities. Then they're not doing anymore. So it's just the main one. Yeah, yeah, big boys. Yep. So that makes even less sense why they would shut it done, because that's even nice maintenance. Yeah, I'm just like, I don't know, from a readit point of view, like how much work could this have been? And, let's be honest, those a million maybe exaggerating it. I'm sure we got the number last thing, but there's many, many modes on this website who offer their services totally free of charge to modes of bredits. I'm pretty sure people would be more than happy enough to keep this going as soon it's like a sense. I think it's probably like a code complexity thing, like having to subredits to do something that have like the Ome Code base to do something completely different. Was it even me make it? You know, they must have some pretty good web debs and stuff like. Why don't they just make it like a little separate website where you go up logging, we are ready named and take your interests, put it in and then it's like a random Genera or you just get the details of somebody else, just how you thought we spell got the christoms episode it up. Yeah, that we should definitely do that. That be fun. Yeah, that's pretty so just need to get people to tweets at the threaders or and join the join the Subadut yeah, are post threads freeze to read. Yeah, I've been force person who does it. We will all be on the episode. One is so choose that threat. The first person that does it will buy you a beer if you're over eighteen. It was a bout the entry the Secret Sanna, Alex or other close friends, family that happen at listen to this excluded. The first person, as a listener that comes and tweets us. You win a prize without could it. Man, that's excluding then. I'm not one fun. We are said, sure, gratefulness, Alex and some other way. I'm just seeing another in terms of other listeners, like, oh, I know if I'm the lessons this podcast. If you do, you went a prize. If you tweets to build anybody. Well, who's look genuinely angry when I say that? Name is? It's PPSD came back. I wake up at my sick the fuck off. That's why I had a bad sleep last night. No, that's a cool idea.

So, God damn you bringing some negative news to Stephen? No, because I've got the news. I could the news. Is it? It got brought back to the original guys. Look, keep it going, nucy, no, red it came seeing it, knew that they're shutting it. Whitey story first place. Why they hand it to them money. I guess he probably got pay. Hey, look, we got a Christmas episode. These aren't fo he's aren't vote. Wait, not as a done vot. They'll shout it's all. But we get we got some okay, okay, confusing ones this week. I'll give you fuck it like mass us. Two episodes net where it's all up, Yay, don't know. Open Up, also running at times. Pleasures. Always Open Up. Tendon. Yeah, let's I love like a water balloon. By Easier.

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